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Models for Dispensing Heroin Sought
« on: March 03, 2015, 02:53:33 PM »
I expect to see the liberalisation of hard drugs like Heroin and Cocaine.

I propose a licensing system similar to the road code where the user is educated and learns how to both manage and administer their drug of choice.

there is no alternative;  a lifetime of considering this, the lesser of all evils is to give people what they want without being exploited or condemned.

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Re: Models for Dispensing Heroin Sought
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2015, 10:24:10 AM »
I would love to see the legalization of drug use.  I don't think I'll live to see hard drugs being sold OTC, but I'd be perfectly happy with a more enlightened view to maintenance. 

Something similar to the old method in the UK, where drug addicts were maintained on their drugs of choice.  I think the UK has pretty much switched to the methadone / buprenorphine model, but a few lucky addicts still receive legal heroin, morphine, etc. for their respective addictions.

People in the US also need to understand the difference between true maintenance and extended detox.  Ideally, maintenance should be provided as an option.  In its present form, "maintenance" is understood as being stabilized on a dose of methadone or buprenorphine, then gradually tapered off with the expected goal of total abstinence from all drugs.  That is not true maintenance.   

Ideally, in the US, a morphine addict could have legal access to morphine maintenance, etc.  Whether that morphine could be prescribed, dispensed at a clinic, or some combination of both could be determined by the patient's level of responsibility. 

I've always said I'd be happy with a legal script for 100mg MS-Contin BID or TID for the maintenance of my opiate addiction. 

Whatever the mode of distribution, the failed War on Drugs and persecution of addicts must stop.  An array of studies have shown it's ineffective and failed.  It's also economically unfeasible, unless you enjoy profiting on the misery of human beings via the prison and "treatment" systems. 

We as a society need to become more enlightened, more willing to implement rational policies based on scientific research, and more compassionate to our fellow human beings.
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Re: Models for Dispensing Heroin Sought
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2015, 11:58:16 AM »
this is happening to some degree as i have a friend that cannot tolerate Methadone and has HIV and he is dispensed 120-180 mg. Morphine per day after a heroin addiction.

he is one of the lucky ones.
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Re: Models for Dispensing Heroin Sought
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2015, 11:07:34 AM »
I'm sorry your friend has HIV, but I'm glad that he is being treated with morphine for his heroin addiction.

I have a feeling his intolerance to methadone isn't the only reason he's being treated this way though.  I'd guess his HIV status is also a contributing factor.  If that's true, I'm sorry it's taken something as tragic as HIV infection to motivate his doctors to treat him properly.

He should have been offered morphine from the very beginning. 
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Re: Models for Dispensing Heroin Sought
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2015, 12:59:54 PM »
that goes for all of us - I feel more normalised from Morphine over Methadone.

... but today's choice only permits Bupe.

bummer  >:(
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