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Re: ketamine infusions for depression, pain, anxiety?
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2018, 08:18:48 PM »
is there a street option available ?

is Ket easy to acquire where you (OP or the reader) are ?

in Oz i can't find Ket anymore and would like to try it for Meth withdrawal.
I've NEVER ran across it except when I was selling it in powder form after buying 10 ml vials of 100mgs/ml online thru Mexican/San Diego/Tijuana online pharmacies and evaping the liquid in the oven. Trust me, I regret selling all that K or regret not buying more. I think the bottles were $100 at the end but they were cheaper than that for a long time. If I could still get those bottles, I'd open up my own ketamine clinic if they're charging that much.

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Re: ketamine infusions for depression, pain, anxiety?
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2018, 08:54:53 AM »
my mom recently attended a talk given by my psych to family members of those afflicted with mental health issues.  the topic of his presentation was ketamine.  my very conservaite mother called me up, short of breath to say "remember that keta something you were trying to tell me about?  i think you should try it!  Dr Heacock says he's been blown away by his initial results! (unbeknowst to mom i've been keeping up with this in my visits with doc h).   i can't afford it but have talked to him regarding other possibilities of me researching ketamine. i live close to Boulder, CO & that's kinda the spearpoint of this stuff today, so maybe...

i still think microdosing shrooms holds the most promise for me & doc is majorly interested in hearing about my first impressions.  i just gotta pull the plug & jump in i guess.


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Re: ketamine infusions for depression, pain, anxiety?
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2018, 03:22:50 PM »
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Re: ketamine infusions for depression, pain, anxiety?
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2018, 09:04:27 PM »
@MoeMentim Do you know about how much it runs in your area? Have you called around to get the cheapest prices? If he's such a fan, it seems like he might be willing to RX the ketamine (or esketamine) nasal spray for his clients/patients to try.
I'm a believer and I haven't even tried it yet except for having it during surgery once. I haven't read a single bad thing about it yet except for the price. Hopefully, the price will come down soon or maybe the cartels will start bringing in Mexican pharm grade or vet grade ketamine bottles like I used to be able to get off the web for pretty cheap (really cheap compared to these clinics)

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Re: ketamine infusions for depression, pain, anxiety?
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2018, 03:03:19 AM »
if you can't find Ket easily then perhaps PCP will yield similar results ?

both are dissociatives and perhaps PCP's value here is thus far undiscovered ?

we don't have PCP here but i would SO much love to try it out.

can you guys find PCP ?
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Re: ketamine infusions for depression, pain, anxiety?
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2018, 03:18:46 AM »
ket infusions at my doc's place are $300/a go.  might be cheaper in Boulder or Denver, haven't really looked. pcp is unatainable so far as i know. 

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Re: ketamine infusions for depression, pain, anxiety?
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2018, 04:19:39 AM »
if you can't find Ket easily then perhaps PCP will yield similar results ?

both are dissociatives and perhaps PCP's value here is thus far undiscovered ?

we don't have PCP here but i would SO much love to try it out.

can you guys find PCP ?
I've only ran across it once in my life in the hood in DC. You gotta know black folks to find PCP these days. They control the manufacture, sale and everything of it from what I've been told and have read as well. This black chick showed me a huge jar of this yellowish liquid that smelled like some strong ass chemical and told me she'd give me a free dipper which are usually $5 for a cigarette that's dipped halfway in the liquid real quick. She said you could get your whole cig or joint double dipped for $10.

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Re: ketamine infusions for depression, pain, anxiety?
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2018, 04:55:54 AM »
i'd love to try that.  i've never came across it unless that's what was up with one super trippy shit looking skinny joint worth i lifted from dad circa 1986.  blew my mind & i'm sure it wasn't straight weed.  met all criteria for thai stick of the day which was supposedly super psychadelic & could have been just that i guess.

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Re: ketamine infusions for depression, pain, anxiety?
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2018, 09:24:01 PM »
I look at PCP the same as MDMA. I wouldn't want to do either unless I personally knew the cook or somehow knew it was pure without any impurities in it. There are too many videos on youtube of people going crazy AF on PCP and they took it off the market as a prescription anesthetic for a reason. It's known to cause folks to act crazy and be aggressive, etc.. If I did smoke some, I'd have to take a hit every 5-10 mins to make sure that I didn't take too much.

There's one video of an old black man shaking a decent sized but small tree back and forth like he's trying to pull it from the ground but his lower stomach by his belt line is cut straight across and his guts are literally hanging out of his body. He doesn't even know about his stomach but you can hear a young black girl that's filming it saying "Yo man, yo guts is hanging out. Somebody need to call 911 or an am-ba-lance for real y'all". It's fucking insane to think that shit can make u do shit like that and not notice your guts are literally outside your body.

Definitely rather have ketamine that's made by a pharm company than some PCP that's made by some bloods or crips in a factory in LA somewhere. My black friends in DC said you gotta have a west coast hookup to get PCP 'cause that's where they make it and it's dirt cheap in LA compared to the east coast. Black folks say they like it 'cause they know all their money is staying with their own people instead of going to Mexicans or shady higher-up white folks or Italian mob, etc.. like with other drugs.

As far as ketamine clinics costing too much right now...Maybe insurance companies will figure out it'll be cheaper for them to cover these ketamine infusions once a month than to pay for SSRIs, benzo's, anti-psychotics, fent patches/opana/pain meds in general, and a bunch of other meds used for depressions, anxiety and pain every month. I'm sure they'd definitely rather pay $300 for a ketamine infusion every month than to pay for a $5k to $20k hospital stay for a suicide attempt once every year or two. Maybe the insurance companies can bargain/negotiate with the ketamine clinics so they'll cover it and make it cheaper for everybody.....even those without insurance.

It seems like it'd be a win-win for the insurance companies AND the ketamine clinics 'cause like I said, the insurance companies would save $ on medications for severe depression/anxiety/pain and any suicide attempts or hospital stays or ER visits that could probably be prevented or reduced by the monthly ketamine infusions. And the ketamine infusion clinics would see a HUGE spike in their number of patients which in turn would make them more money. If I owned one of these clinics, I'd rather have 2,000 patients a day have their insurance pay me $100 ($200k/day) than to have 50-100 patients pay me $300 out of their own pockets ($15-30k/day).
My numbers might be off or unreasonable but you get my drift or my point that more patients equals more money even if you have to go down on the price a little. Like suboxone for example, I bet their stock price would actually go up if they went down from $7-8 per strip to even just $4-5 per strip as they'd get more patients trying suboxone and might even steal some patients from 'done clinics if they made it not cost so much. It's not like those strips cost much to make since both ingredients have been around for decades. But we all know that ain't gonna happen until their patent runs out or they get some serious competition from Bunavail or Zubsolv or Belbuca or Butrans or Probuphine or Sublocade or one of the other bupe medications.
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Re: ketamine infusions for depression, pain, anxiety?
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2018, 08:04:07 AM »
appointment in a week, first order of business is ket infusions, second is that i have shroom spores on the way for microdosing.  also a trip or two because why not?

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Re: ketamine infusions for depression, pain, anxiety?
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2018, 06:07:32 PM »
sounds like a sound medical plan.

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Re: ketamine infusions for depression, pain, anxiety?
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2018, 11:46:29 PM »
Please let me know how the ketamine infusions go. Also, does anybody know what kinda dosages they're using for these infusions? I don't wanna use too little (or too much and go into a K-hole) if I try my own at home IV ketamine "infusions" AKA shots.

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Re: ketamine infusions for depression, pain, anxiety?
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2018, 01:55:22 AM »
i'd say you're looking at around 80-120 mg (but that's just a wild guess) and of course, body weight has some bearing on it.

the K-hole is OK too as you need the full experience of the "re-emergence" syndrome to trigger the feelings of "getting it all together".
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Re: ketamine infusions for depression, pain, anxiety?
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2018, 01:07:07 AM »
So, I've only done ketamine in recreational use, rave type settings, but they've come a long way in accepting it medically in the last couple years. My friend just took part in a trial for 6 weeks, 2 iv infusions a week. It was just the ketamine, no diazepam, so the dissociative effects were present.

She got in on this cause her dads a doctor and one of his doctor friends was looking for more test subjects to use for a study hes doing now in the USA, already did this study in uk.

It is usually used for depression, which she does have. In this case it was used to treat a dissociative episode that was going on for weeks, she felt like everything was fake, was manic, etc. Seemed strange to treat dissociative disorders with dissociative drugs but hey, I'm not a doctor. This dissociative disorder she has just started after she got clean btw, so it may be some feeling that others of us experience but cant describe in the way a doctor would.

And I don't meant that it happened during withdrawal, just as a part of paws. Happening after she was clean for a month, she got it and was first treated with klonopin, which only helped till it was gone. Came back in a month and the doctor was unwilling to give more klonopin, and she asked around what to do from some friends of her dad, doctors, and stumbled upon this option.

It must be becoming more common, as there is a ketamine doctor in my town now too, a medium sized city, which just got there a few months ago.

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Re: ketamine infusions for depression, pain, anxiety?
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2018, 04:11:21 AM »
what did she say?  did it help?

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Re: ketamine infusions for depression, pain, anxiety?
« Reply #29 from previous page: November 02, 2018, 07:30:12 AM »
Yes, she says it helps. It's been less than a month since the last session so idk long term, but in the meantime it broke her out of the unreality/mania and depressed cycle. She's back to being coherent and going to work. So there's definitely something to it, i'm not sure if they know how and why it works, hence the experiments.

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