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Re: What is that SMELL?
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2016, 08:02:01 PM »
I dig ether also! Last year my friend and I were making our own, not from starter fluid, but synthing it from ethanol and sulfuric acid. We liked drinking it mixed with whiskey, and chased with ice water. Yum!
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Re: What is that SMELL?
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2016, 08:43:17 PM »
The path to your brains from like some pipein your finger, is: heart - lungs - heart - brain. (I'd cite this but not in great shape atm).

So it kinda makes sense that it takes a second to taste it.

The best taste ever IMO is ether, and it usually means the dope is... good fuckin' dope. People never use ether anymore, prolly dun blew too many motherfucks up. Ooohh but that sweet, sweet taste though. If I had ether and good veins, I'd probably use it as a solvent for whatever I'z bangin' just cos it tastes so freakin' good!

Right, the path a drug takes when administered IV = through the vein to the heart, on to the lungs, back to the heart, then the entire body including the brain. When you smoke a drug, however, it goes from the lungs to the heart, to the systemic circulation (including the brain). So smoking is a more direct, much more direct way of administering a drug than IV.

Most people are not aware of this.
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Re: What is that SMELL?
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2016, 09:32:32 PM »
Right, the path a drug takes when administered IV = through the vein to the heart, on to the lungs, back to the heart, then the entire body including the brain. When you smoke a drug, however, it goes from the lungs to the heart, to the systemic circulation (including the brain). So smoking is a more direct, much more direct way of administering a drug than IV.

Most people are not aware of this.

It's hard to take in a gram in one toke though!
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Re: What is that SMELL?
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2016, 10:01:32 PM »
It's hard to take in a gram in one toke though!
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Re: What is that SMELL?
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2016, 11:16:09 PM »
  fucking A!!! Chill out over there @Guts!!!

I'm actually being a good boy :) Nothing but my methadone for the last couple of weeks.
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Re: What is that SMELL?
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2016, 08:45:49 AM »
@shoybs
Could you post a few pics
Of what this stuff looks like
Once cooked up?
Please?

I'm tapped out at the moment, but i can describe it pretty easily.

For one thing, it NEEDS heat to dissolve. Its coarse like salt or sugar, not fluffy like flour.

Once it's the mixture is heated, it looks like clear oil on top of your water. Mix it up with your syringe cap, and bam, it looks just like plain ol clear water.
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Re: What is that SMELL?
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2016, 11:48:51 AM »
If it remains separate and needs heat to dissolve then it's possible it's a freebase form as opposed to a salt. Have you tried adding a bit of acid like citric acid or vinegar to see if it allows it to dissolve more easily?  If you do it maybe try a smaller shot then normal just to make sure that the potency is the same.


@Zoops Totally makes sense.  I honestly don't know that much about it so I was taking a wild guess.
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Re: What is that SMELL?
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2016, 08:41:40 PM »
If it remains separate and needs heat to dissolve then it's possible it's a freebase form as opposed to a salt. Have you tried adding a bit of acid like citric acid or vinegar to see if it allows it to dissolve more easily?  If you do it maybe try a smaller shot then normal just to make sure that the potency is the same.


@Zoops Totally makes sense.  I honestly don't know that much about it so I was taking a wild guess.

It's supposedly the hydrochloride salt form. I've read that it does dissolve, it just takes a lot of time and agitation and I merely lacked the patience. Who really knows though, maybe they sent me base form.
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Re: What is that SMELL?
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2016, 11:23:22 PM »

I'e played around with this tasting an IV shot.


To test if it was blood going thru the olfactry part of the brain, or just form the exhaled breath carrying the chemical odor, I held my breath after injection.


I tasted nothing, until I exhaled 30 seconds later.


IMSO, most tastes/odor are carried on the breath, transfering from the blood, to the lungs to your soon to be exhaled breath.


Try if for yourselves!


PS-part of me is interested in trying some of this RC opioid; it sounds like the worst case scenario for addiction & tolerance raising tho.


1- Great Rush, 2- No duration of action, 3- High likelihood of follow up shots.


Body says DO IT!!  Brainster says, ehhh, noop.







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Re: What is that SMELL?
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2016, 11:26:56 PM »
I'e played around with this tasting an IV shot.


To test if it was blood going thru the olfactry part of the brain, or just form the exhaled breath carrying the chemical odor, I held my breath after injection.


I tasted nothing, until I exhaled 30 seconds later.


IMSO, most tastes/odor are carried on the breath, transfering from the blood, to the lungs to your soon to be exhaled breath.


Try if for yourselves!


PS-part of me is interested in trying some of this RC opioid; it sounds like the worst case scenario for addiction & tolerance raising tho.


1- Great Rush, 2- No duration of action, 3- High likelihood of follow up shots.


Body says DO IT!!  Brainster says, ehhh, noop.

I'm going to try some as soon as I get this check I'm waiting on... maybe some furanylfentanyl too :) I'll let you know how strung out I get...
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Re: What is that SMELL?
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2016, 04:04:02 AM »
@Guts, please be very careful with the fentanyl analogs, we had a well loved member named eon pass on recently who was messin around with some of those, I dont remember exactly which ones, but anyway, hes no longer with us, and he'd been using longer probably then you been alive, so he was'nt no dummy. Anyway man, just please be careful,huh?
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Re: What is that SMELL?
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2016, 09:41:46 PM »
I'e played around with this tasting an IV shot.


To test if it was blood going thru the olfactry part of the brain, or just form the exhaled breath carrying the chemical odor, I held my breath after injection.


I tasted nothing, until I exhaled 30 seconds later.


IMSO, most tastes/odor are carried on the breath, transfering from the blood, to the lungs to your soon to be exhaled breath.


Try if for yourselves!


PS-part of me is interested in trying some of this RC opioid; it sounds like the worst case scenario for addiction & tolerance raising tho.


1- Great Rush, 2- No duration of action, 3- High likelihood of follow up shots.


Body says DO IT!!  Brainster says, ehhh, noop.

The only reason i did it was because I'm on suboxone and wanted a little fun on the weekend. I think if anything makes this particular RC a tolerance raiser, its the fact that it can be acquired so cheaply.

This is the first full-agonist ive had in a long time, and my tolerance is fucking stupid high compared to where i thought it was. Apparently i jacked my tolerance sky high by IV'ing 16mg of suboxone a day for the past few months (i'm a needle fiend, that's all there is to it). I cut back to 2mg a day when i placed my order, and took 0.5mg a day for 4 days leading up to my first time trying it.

The first thing i did was an "allergy test" (<1mg orally) to make sure i wouldn't have any kind of bad reaction to it, and also to make sure that i wasn't accidentally shipped something way stronger. Once i was confident in doing more, i figured that since it was equipotent to hydromorphone and accounting for tolerance and 0.5mg of bupe in my system, id need 10-20mg per shot. For my first "real" shot i did 10mg, just to be on the safe side. I felt absolutely nothing. I titrated my doseage up until i finally hit the spot where i could really feel it. That was at about 80mg.

So in my case - my subs already made my tolerance stupid high, i ended up only getting about 7 shots total (i was sharing with a friend), and i had my subs as a fallback once i ran out.
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Re: What is that SMELL?
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2016, 11:16:37 PM »
Did subs cover you when you switched back? Was it a harder transition than anything else? 80 mgs is a pretty big dose considering the stuff is 7.5x M.
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Re: What is that SMELL?
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2016, 06:33:42 AM »
Did subs cover you when you switched back? Was it a harder transition than anything else? 80 mgs is a pretty big dose considering the stuff is 7.5x M.

Subs covered me just fine - probably easier actually. I continued taking 0.5mg of sub each morning that I did the U-4 so that I could switch directly back without worrying about precipitated withdrawal. Once I ran out, next morning I simply took 4mg of sub and have been taking 4mg a day since just fine. Keep in mind I only used the U-4 for a little 3-day binge. Using it for a longer period of time may be a totally different story.
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Re: What is that SMELL?
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2016, 01:07:40 PM »
I understand. I was thinking about getting some and, doing the math, I was guessing I'd need around 100 mgs shots to get high. So a gram probably wouldn't last me that long either :)
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Re: What is that SMELL?
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I understand. I was thinking about getting some and, doing the math, I was guessing I'd need around 100 mgs shots to get high. So a gram probably wouldn't last me that long either :)

Oh yeah you're golden then. Its a fun little weekend escape without having to worry about dropping dirty (if that's something that you'd have to worry about). But as with all RC's you should plan on using a tiny amount first, as this stuff has never really been tested on humans and you never know what you might be allergic to or what side effects you might encounter. Plus there was a particular incident where a vendor accidentally shipped a fent analogue instead and damn near killed people. Always play it safe because once you work up to the dose you need, you'll still have plenty leftover for at least a few good highs.
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