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Re: Gabapentin New Drug of Abuse?
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 01, 2018, 07:27:20 AM »
i was reflecting of Deadcat's recent death and just how fragile life can be for opiate users.
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Re: Gabapentin New Drug of Abuse?
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2018, 11:19:49 PM »
I have a lot of experience here. These drugs are the closest thing to a non-opioid panacea out there, especially pregablin. The issue with gabapentin is that the body can only absorb so much at a time, as the transporters get "saturated" (and it is absorbed further down in the gut, delaying the effects). So you have to stagger your doses, taking like one pill every ~30 minutes (that's how I do it at least). After an hour you are feeling better, and after 2-3 you are near 100%. The only thing it doesn't take away for me is the sneezes. In theory you have to "mega dose" to get opioid withdrawal relief, but you can't overdose on these drugs, and the only real negative effects I've had on heroic doses is myoclonic jerking, usually exasperated by a lack of sleep.

Pregablin doesn't have the absorption issues, so you can just take your entire dose at once, and I'd say 200-300mg pregablin for a first timer will set you straight and have you feeling decent. The "buzz" is more of like a drunken lack of inhibition without the sloppiness of being drunk with interesting CEVs, but these effects go away quickly with repeated dosing, and you will only get relief from withdrawal, along with (maybe) some disassociation at high enough doses once you have a tolerance.

Pregablin doesn't have a generic (yet), so the prescriptions are more expensive. Gabapentin is easy to get prescribed, comparatively, and always a gold standard to my opiate withdrawal protocol. Honestly, I'd rather have one of these than benzos if I had to hold out a few days or more.

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Re: Gabapentin New Drug of Abuse?
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2018, 03:39:00 AM »
Nice said anything I could say but I don't like Lyrica. Just don't, don't find it as useful, just personal preference. Everytime I am asked what drug helps the most and the first words out of my mouth aren't the name of a Benzo the Dr's are surprised. Gaba Gaba Gaba--The Flintstones for the win.

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Re: Gabapentin New Drug of Abuse?
« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2018, 04:45:13 PM »
Gabapentin and Lyrica have both been a great tool to combat WD when you don't have your DoC.  Hell I would rather take either of those than Suboxone for WD...

I'm sure it's just a matter of time before there are tighter controls for both meds but right now Lyrica is Schedule V and Gabapentin is not scheduled at all.  Nevermind I see Snoop corrected himself on that....

The reason I say that-- I was looking at getting into a 3/4 house around here and both of them totally forbid both drugs... Prescribed or not it doesn't matter.  I've never been to a halfway or 3/4 house so I have no idea if this is normal or not but I was baffled that you couldn't use either drug while living there..... Especially gabapentin.

Thats horrible they can deny entry if you are prescribed certain medication, that a doctor with a PHD deemed necessary for your health. I wonder if thats illegal somehow. Discrimination based on your medical is made by what doctor at these houses??...

The other ones that make me mad are the banning of Kava, kratom, And fucking Valerian root, as well as melatonin. It just baffles me these places out right deny something that may help the client greatly.

 Their usual justification is "They get you high", while they swallow their anti-depressant, with their 5th cup of extra strong coffee, smoking a cigarette, and eating some shitty fast food with simple sugars and corn syrups. All of which are drugs. All if which produce a high, and are much more harmful. The anti depressant is the exception to that list of legal highs, however they can cause suicidal/homicidal idealization and increased depression with the wrong one.

Caffeine is consumed daily by 80% of people who try it. Cigarettes are just behind alcohol in most damaging drug ever made. Most of our food, atleast 80% of the grocery store foods, have added sugar. One college study found sugar to be 5x more addictive than cocaine, and is linked to a majority of american health issues. But all these are ok and NOT DRUGS according to the people working there. Ive had this argument so many times with rehab staff and employees, just to point out how absurd their rules are, and im usuaully just ignored like im crazy hahahaha.

Wait till there's DUI and public intoxication charges for excess caffeine levels in ones system. Police state has landed.
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Re: Gabapentin New Drug of Abuse?
« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2018, 04:50:27 PM »

@Mr.pooper ... yep, so true i keep on banging on about the danger of banning fairly innocuous soft options - welcome illegal, more dangerous HARDER options.

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Re: Gabapentin New Drug of Abuse?
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2018, 09:58:19 PM »
I recently got prescribed gabapaentin for a comfort/detox med. It helps greatly but it's only been a few days on it.
Yesterday I realized I took about 5 600 mg pills. What would you guys say is a good dose for comfort but also functionality like I'm not gonna be laid out for hours? And should I just pop a few at a time or take one by one until I feel relief? I'm on day 8 of detoxing  today but haven't slept in 2 days and I have to function today.
Sorry if this is the wrong place for this but I'm not in my best mindframe, lol.

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Re: Gabapentin New Drug of Abuse?
« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2018, 12:38:27 PM »
Due to the absorption issues, you want to stagger the doses. Take one pill every ~30 minutes or so until you feel that you are in a good spot. It's very inconsistent and you won't be able to recreate the first few highs no matter how high you dose later on without a long break. Either way, great WD aid.

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Re: Gabapentin New Drug of Abuse?
« Reply #36 on: January 25, 2018, 01:15:41 PM »
I know this thread is old,  but the original post caught my eye...

The dude is taking opiates and benzos,  and they blame his 6 wrecks on gabapentin jaja

Ive never had much luck with  it,  as a comfort med,  but Ive also only taken small doses. Its things like this that make me believe health care professionals are wildly out of touch. They  make it sound as addictive as  crack....
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Re: Gabapentin New Drug of Abuse?
« Reply #37 on: January 25, 2018, 02:52:59 PM »
Due to the absorption issues, you want to stagger the doses. Take one pill every ~30 minutes or so until you feel that you are in a good spot. It's very inconsistent and you won't be able to recreate the first few highs no matter how high you dose later on without a long break. Either way, great WD aid.

what he said. tolerance develops so quickly, it's a short-lived thing despite being significantly intoxicating once upon a time.
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