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How to Extract/Defeat Concerta (Methylphenidate)
« on: December 07, 2015, 07:04:03 PM »
So as some of you may be familiar I cam across one of the most glorious stashes of non-opiate drugs
obtained without technically "stealing" since they were in a house that had nobody living in it for the last 2 years
(just want to add that since I find stealing meds from people who legit need them to be disgusting and inhumane)

Anyways
I got a pretty nice handful of Ritalin SR 20mg (name brand oh la la!) which are just a pleasure to work with
lick'n'crush, as they (well, at least me) say about such hassle free pills

I also got about #10 54mg Concerta, imprint ALZA 54
these have to be some of the most stubborn fuckers I have encountered!
I was scripted these from around age 9-12 and I remember being able to chew the fuckers into nothing easily
cause even 10 year old TTA loved him a good zoom

Bear with me as I am still working my way through that magical bag of goodies, so this ma be a little.... scattered
(45min version of Darkstar in the background doesnt help either)

SO!
From what I understand, these Concerta pills are quite the neat little invention
Based on research (links to come later), I have found thay approximately 22% of the active m-phen is contained in the outside coating
this is allegedly the "instant release" portion of the pill intended to take effect while the ER version gets to work

After removing the outer wax coating, there is another almost unperceiveable layer of wax, maybe 1mm thin
it is completely clear but very simple to remove

even with that thin layer of wax still on, you should be able to see three distinct sections:
-one smaller pinkish part at the "top"; This section contains methylphenidate, intended to be released first

-one larger white section in the middle; This section contains the majority of the m-phen, it has a waxier consistency

-one colored charcoal/dark grey; this section is inert, and is actually the "time-release" mechanism"

As opposed to most Extended or Sustained formulations we encounter here in the states
this does not just slowly dissolve to a core,
but rather as the grey inert part is exposed to water/moisture,
it begins to expand and starts slowly pushing the active parts of the pill out the "top" end of the pill

This method is called Osmotic Pressure, and I find it hilarious at how
1) some guys in the lab thought "to really make it abuse proof we better color code which parts of the insides are good to get high"
2) THEY ACTUALLY FUCKING DID THAT!
3) regardless of how this seems like the most ideal situation beyond the good ol' days of crush'n'sniff,
it is in fact frustrating me to find someway of making this shit into something relatively useful

I would put these pills on par with the new-new Opana TRF in terms of hassle
obv the Concerta are far worse as the contents arent even worth half the grain Ben Carson says they stored in the pyramids



So far I have just been tooting the sweet ass Brand Name Ritalin SR 20mgs 5-10mg at a time (SUPER low stim tolly... well, for the first day/dose)
But I only have a few of those left, well actually more like ~13mg really, little over half
so since I just found all this free, and the Concerta taken orally is just not working for me, I've done a lot of experimenting

I know that we have, or at least had, a number of members who were BIG fans of IV ritalin, (Zoops? 40? that guy who shot only stims?)
All the papers I've read in journals, all the anecdotes, all of it suggests a drug on oar with cocaine in some regards, and superior in duration


Right now all I can do is
1) Suck off the outer coat- NOT gonna rub it off if that contains 22% of the active drugs, not even gonna risk it

2) Use a NEW, SHARP straight razor to carefully peel clear/grey wax layer under the outer coating
    PROTIP: score the pill top to bottom after the outer coating is removed, it will be easier to start the above step
  ** make sure to get the square kind, not the boxcutter trapezoid ones, those are too thick/not sharp enough to cut the pill safely**

3) With the two coatings are completely removed, the three distinct sections should be completely apparent; from here, two options:
  -You can now use the straight razor to separate the three sections;
     Pink (Top) Section: contains methylphenidate and little if any wax, VERY brittle
     White (Middle) Section: contains a majority of the methylphenidate, but also contains some waxy binders, not easily "powdered"
     Grey (Bottom) Section: this part is the actual extended-release mechanism explained above; sacrifice this piece to the ghost of Harry Anslinger
              Now that you have the three separate parts, you can crush the pink part for your quick reward.
              A ped-egg or file of some type is needed to "powderize" the waxyish white part; it left a consistency reminiscent of an ABG morphine ER

  ***A more effective method is following the first two steps, removing the outer AND inner coatings, then using a ped-egg or file to grind both
        the pink and white sections down until all that is left is the useless grey piece. This gives you a little more pill to hold and work with.


So yes, these methods are in fact somewhat effective based on the content of this post.

This is what I've managed to figure out. I would greatly appreciate some chem wizards to grace me with their knowlewdge of solvents and stuff
So i can just chpe these fuckers up, soak em in some solution, evap, and be happy

(CAUSE THATS HOW IT WORKS, RIGHT>!>!?!? DIZ? CHOPS? ZOOP-A-DOOP?)
 


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Re: How to Extract/Defeat Concerta (Methylphenidate)
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2015, 07:15:32 PM »
Good deal man!
I can tell you got a thwack session going on haha.
Be careful, you know how stims can tear you a new asshole when you come down.

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You HAVE to try methylphenicrack!

With the easily crush/snortable tablets, you crush them up and mix a little baking soda and water and cook it up.
I've used tin foil and a lighter before with great results.

If you've done it right, you have an easily smokeable rock of methylphenicrack.  It's some interesting stuff and definitely worth trying it out.
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Re: How to Extract/Defeat Concerta (Methylphenidate)
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2015, 09:23:46 PM »
To get from there to Injection you just do an ISO extraction on the two usable inner layers.  Soak the 91+ isopropyl and the pills for a bit, draw off, and filter into a clean vessel/spoon for evaporation.  I evaporated over a lighter a foot under a high wall cooker.  Evaporate until there is no liquid, and a powder appears, then quickly add a bit of water.

Straight ritalin.  I wouldn't touch it anymore, but I had a fiendish habit a while ago.

The trick is the isopropyl.  It has to be 91 or 99.  Too much water and it won't work.  You will end up with a snotty talc filled mess that I wouldn't even think about injecting.

Grey is garbage.  Toss the osmotic pusher out.  I used to strip and cook in 2 minutes.  You get surprisingly good at it.

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Re: How to Extract/Defeat Concerta (Methylphenidate)
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2015, 10:04:23 PM »
You can get pretty high quality ISO as HEET brand gas dryer in most automotive sections. It's ISO in the yellow bottles, red bottles are methanol.

It's gotta be pretty dry of they're selling it to pull water from gas tanks..

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Re: How to Extract/Defeat Concerta (Methylphenidate)
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2015, 10:15:28 PM »
You can get a workable extraction doing the same thing with the candy coating.  Unfortunately it has some nasty stuff in it that you don't want to inject.  Better off just eating that probably, although I have done it as well.  I'm still around, but HR and all that.  Off the top of my head I think it was titanium dioxide.
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Re: How to Extract/Defeat Concerta (Methylphenidate)
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2015, 01:55:37 AM »
The formulation isn't to try to thwart addicts....it's a workaround to help avoid the "zombie"effect that can occur with IR Ritalin.

Less peaks and valleys.

I literally just went through all of this with my son's doctor, as we just moved him to Concerta from IR. So far, so good.

Sometimes it's actually about better serving the patient's needs.
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Re: How to Extract/Defeat Concerta (Methylphenidate)
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2015, 03:39:41 PM »
An IV hit of methylphenidate is waaaay better than coke. That stuff will have you fiending your ass off for sure. Be careful TTA. Have lots of benzos ready for the comedown.

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Re: How to Extract/Defeat Concerta (Methylphenidate)
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2016, 11:14:56 AM »
Can someone please email me thanks as im still unsure on process

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Re: How to Extract/Defeat Concerta (Methylphenidate)
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2016, 01:21:02 PM »
You can get pretty high quality ISO as HEET brand gas dryer in most automotive sections. It's ISO in the yellow bottles, red bottles are methanol.

It's gotta be pretty dry of they're selling it to pull water from gas tanks..

Doh! This is backwards - red is IPA, yeller is teh MeOH (methanol).

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Re: How to Extract/Defeat Concerta (Methylphenidate)
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Re: How to Extract/Defeat Concerta (Methylphenidate)
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2018, 12:41:22 PM »
What about the new Concerta's they have now in 2018?

Post Merge: August 26, 2018, 12:46:57 PM
How can you extract the methylphenidate from the new (2018) Mylan concerta 36mg?
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Re: How to Extract/Defeat Concerta (Methylphenidate)
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2018, 02:25:42 AM »
can't help you there but if they have a time release mechanism that you bypass then your receptors will down regulate so quickly that you will barely feel them by the next day.

i used to shoot 50 mg. straight MPH and most of it did little except the first few shots.

what happens when you crush them into a fine powder ? do they gel when water is added ?

how do you intend to administer them ?

are they ok when chewed ?
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Re: How to Extract/Defeat Concerta (Methylphenidate)
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2018, 08:59:43 PM »
From the concerta's I used to steal from my college roommate in '05, I can't imagine anyone getting around the time release mechanism unless they can put it in something acidic for a long time or know a bunch about chemistry. Even back then, they were rock hard and had a plastic outer layer and the inside had 2 or 3 different colors/sections.

Do they still make the normal easy to abuse 10 mg instant release ritalin? I used to get em from Mexico for a dollar each but I never knew you could IV em and get a good rush from them back then.

I always preferred ritalin over adderall and still do. Ritalin actually made me feel good and talkative like good coke, while add just makes me nervous feeling and quietly jacked up.

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