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Re: MMT : How Many Of You Abuse Your Takehomes ?
« Reply #29 from previous page: November 20, 2015, 04:38:33 AM »
Well I lost my takehomes again after taking 3 days worth and not finding a way out of w/ds. So I called my doctor and was allowed to go pick up my missed doses but I'm back on Sundays takehome only. Ugh...

The buzz was kinda worth it though lol.  ::) :P

And yeah boro was indeed full of shit, it tasted horrible and made it almost impossible to smoke the shit. The good thing is you can turn the goo back into regular drinkable methadone by adding white vinegar until the solution is clear. Tasted like crap very chemical but it did come on much stronger. I used ammonia to make the freebase methadone in solution.
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Re: MMT : How Many Of You Abuse Your Takehomes ?
« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2015, 04:44:48 AM »
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The buzz was kinda worth it though lol.  ::) :P

back of the queue for you, it's a pity that you couldn't resist temptation ... nonetheless, i urge you to consider taking it for stability, not a DOC.

sad to hear this. personally, i am stable atm.

have another go, you might as well ...
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Re: MMT : How Many Of You Abuse Your Takehomes ?
« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2015, 06:22:53 AM »
Yeah, I do see it as a major setback honestly... I find myself craving a double dosage again today. After being stable for that long (for me anyway) that tripled dosage hit me like a brick wall mixed with my usual beer. Haven't had such strong cravings for an opi high in ages honestly...

Truly feels like back of the queue again, I put your quote in my signature if you don't mind, I recall people doing that back on Opio and it really hit home for me, maybe it'll remind me what (not) to do in the future when I read my own posts.

I'm going to try to get stable and my takehomes back asap, hopefully this craving will pass... Oh well, gotta pay the piper I guess.

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Re: MMT : How Many Of You Abuse Your Takehomes ?
« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2015, 01:12:45 PM »
@40 & Quzyke

Boro was FOS about many things, but this one he was right about (outside of the xtal filtering thing). You guys might not have your tek down, but if you ever get it, you'll see what I'm talking about.

When you get a proper hit that numbs the fuck out of your tongue and lips: you'll see...

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Re: MMT : How Many Of You Abuse Your Takehomes ?
« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2015, 02:45:13 PM »
Im on two weeks of carries...

I used to set myself back for up to an entire week.

I don't do that anymore, not since the baby. Its not fair to him. Me being all fucked off, edgy and impatient.

Plus, (and I gotta give credit to Opus for this one) THIS STUFF ISN'T DOPE... Its maintenance medication.

Plus im still riding the Benzo Snake, and Doc recently added Gabapentin to the mix.

And even at my 90mg dose and 1mg Xanax the Gaba gets me fucking twisted.

Had to start taking the shit at night. No joke.

PS- I can't seem to get that tek down either. I think I halfway got it down, but nothing went numb, except my grey matter trying to get it right.

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Re: MMT : How Many Of You Abuse Your Takehomes ?
« Reply #34 on: November 20, 2015, 03:51:48 PM »
So I evaporated the results of the hexane wash and sure enough it's just sugar and red dye. It didn't get all the dye, but it did get almost all of the sugar. So the answer to your question 40 (how to remove the sugar), is a hexane wash.

Hexanes are very easily found OTC, even here in CA (at least they were 6mos ago).

The little bit of red goo that I tasted has left a just barely numb spot on my tongue, so there are definitely losses involved with this, but that's true for almost all chemistry and that some came over in the hexanes might be mitigated by some PH adjustment, but I'm not sure which way, maybe a little towards acid, then wash, then base, then pull with ether -- that's a guess. Also I suspect with very pure ether no sugar would come over at all, so the hexane wash may not even be needed unless you're not doing a solvent extraction. I bet the reason for the emulsion on my first try was because the ether was contaminated with hexanes.

So I think the losses are probably mostly gained back by good lab procedure and by the massively efficient gains had by bypassing your entire GI system and getting something so lipid soluble up in the noggin so quickly; but again I agree with people who warn against abusing maintenance meds, freebasing your methadone probably isn't the best idea if you have nowhere else to turn.
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Re: MMT : How Many Of You Abuse Your Takehomes ?
« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2015, 10:08:10 PM »
boros post were all about using lye or ammonia for basing and no mention of cleaning with ether whatsoever, thats why i say hes full of shit in this aspect because he went on and on about doing it and if he actually had he would have found that his method left you with sugar and methadone

i dont think boro actually DID anything he said he did


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Re: MMT : How Many Of You Abuse Your Takehomes ?
« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2015, 10:39:52 PM »
boros post were all about using lye or ammonia for basing and no mention of cleaning with ether whatsoever, thats why i say hes full of shit in this aspect because he went on and on about doing it and if he actually had he would have found that his method left you with sugar and methadone

i dont think boro actually DID anything he said he did

Ya I tend to agree. I did once manage to filter SOME xtals from the goop (using a tp plug and some vacuum) but it never worked well for me either.

So I evaporated the "mother liquor" - the original solution I pulled the 'done from, and it left a goopy mess. Seemed like more sugar (maybe a different kind? or maybe the hexanes didn't get it all) and NO numbness at all on tasting, only sweet; nor did it seem to be alkaline at all. So that all leads me to believe that the ether pull worked like fucking AWESOMELY well. FKNA.

For the record here, distilling ether is VERY easy, it boils at 35.5C, like 100F, that means you only need something ether proof, but not heat proof, to distill it. Not that I'm suggesting you should freebase your methadone, cos you most definitely SHOULD NOT freebase your methadone, that is of course unless you want to, in which case, this tek works pretty well.. Skip the hexane wash and just go straight to the ether part tho, no need for the hexanes if you only want the base.

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Re: MMT : How Many Of You Abuse Your Takehomes ?
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2015, 09:42:03 AM »
I get my takehomes in capsule form and inside is pure methadone hcl mixed with guargum. The guargum is a thickening agent, does anyone have any idea on how to seperate that fucking guargum from the powder? It would leave me with pure methadone hcl powder which I can then use ammonia in a spoon on to make it smokeable.

I tried basifying and smoking it with the guargum but the smoke was extremely harsh (snorting worked well but the burn is insane and ruins the rush). If anyone has any idea I will love you forever! PURE METHADONE POWDER! I also get 4mg/ml solution in distilled water on other days but don't get to take that home sadly due to my IV past.

Oral methadone without sugar is way stronger for some reason, in both capsule and water solution forms. My apothecary says it might have something to do with the viscosity. All I know is I got ultra high the first 3 days they switched to the sugarless solution. I also get w/ds from sugar-form solution methadone even though it's still 112mg.

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Re: MMT : How Many Of You Abuse Your Takehomes ?
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2018, 07:57:50 PM »
Proud of you ..keep it up ..you'll thank yourself trust me .

It's now 18 months since i used Methadone and the needle ... now i'm stims, GABA and drink heaps ... at least i can forget about cellulitis !  :D
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