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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #14 from previous page: October 09, 2015, 02:00:05 AM »
You can only get up to 99% iso.
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2015, 02:11:06 AM »
How do you know the purity of my iso? ;)

Use the purest you have, ya it's probably gonna be %99.xx, which should work fine. If you're concerned, dry it. The stuff I buy for drying petrol works well for pulling the wax out of those pills.

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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2015, 09:38:10 AM »
I have some Actavis purple 30's that I need to prepare for iv (after a.a.)......our baking soda method works but you end up with a dark, gluggy horible shot (like you mentioned Opus).

I'm thinking that an extract with some approx 70% iso might be the trick. I've got about 240mgs of M. How much iso do you recommend Opus? I can only get 50 or 100 ml bottles as its closely watched over here.

So I crush the pill matter then add the iso with a couple drops of HCL and extract through a filter of some sort............then reduce the iso to make sure the M is concentrated enough to base out.....say about 20mls of iso left at this stage. Then base it out......would it be quicker to just filter the result through a coffee filter at this stage or you think I should just evaporate down?     I would expect a white powder at this point if filtered....why do you say brown Opus? Is that just because you evapped down or ?

Will be trying this in a few hours so will let you know how I get on. Please Opus and anyone else who can offer suggestions, let me know your thoughts.

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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2015, 04:24:24 PM »
Asshole, UTMFSE!

This topic has been covered a million times on here.

Oh wait...

Carry on.

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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2015, 08:46:16 PM »
With %70 iso, you should be able to hold 30mg per ML, so 240/30 = 8ML of ISO should hold 240mg M. If that math is bad, blame it on ridiculous lack of sleep.

It turns brown when I flame dry it under a broiler in a big ol' spoon. I've heard raw M is also brown, IDK what color it would be if you re-crystallized it, I haven't tried.

Once you get the iso away from the pill mass, no need to filter it, there's dope in there! Evap it down to dryness..

There will be some wax that comes over, but it's not water soluble so if you're gonna boot the M, no worries. You can still acetylate the M in there and it will be a little messy, but nowhere near as bad as trying to double the raw (30mg) pill mass.

If you can separate the ISO from the water, it's worth doing the first pull with very dry (>99%) alcohol to get that wax out, but I'm not gonna go into how to do that here..

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edit: It's 5:45 and I've only slept a couple hours, I can't tell if that math is ok, I'll look at it again later. 1ml of water will hold 60mg M, that much I know.

thinking a little more, I think about 13ml %70 iso for 240mg M. I'll write it out later..
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2015, 12:14:35 AM »
1ml of %70 ISO (.3ml of h2o) will hold about 18mg M, so
240/18 = 13.33ml alcohol for 240mg Morphine.

It's a bit to evaporate, the BP of the azeotrope is about 80C tho, with a little practice under a broiler it can be done fairly quickly, just be careful to not burn it.

It just occurred to me that if you can't get dry iso to get the wax out on the first pull, that water (distilled) would work to separate the M from the wax after you dry the alcohol off. It'd probably add another hour to the process..

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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2015, 02:25:09 PM »
FYI, i saw the magic number - 240 ... which reminds me:

did you know that at 240 mg with Morphine, all your Mu receptors are fully occupied (?) and you can not feel any more stoned and you may well die trying.
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2015, 02:42:16 PM »
FYI, i saw the magic number - 240 ... which reminds me:

did you know that at 240 mg with Morphine, all your Mu receptors are fully occupied (?) and you can not feel any more stoned and you may well die trying.
No jokes thats a pretty awesome fact I now got locked. Thanks.

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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2015, 05:58:36 PM »
you can get the water out of iso by using epson salts in a pan on the stove which is inCREDIBLeY fucking dangerous and easy as hell to catch the iso on fire

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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2015, 06:02:14 PM »
I bought a gallon of ISO and it caught alight.

I freaked out and burnt my hand whilst taking it outside.

I was extracting THC from plants ... I shouldn't have used a gas oven to evap.

good advice, 40. I still have the scar.
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2015, 08:05:09 PM »
FYI, i saw the magic number - 240 ... which reminds me:

did you know that at 240 mg with Morphine, all your Mu receptors are fully occupied (?) and you can not feel any more stoned and you may well die trying.

Sources, please!
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2015, 08:35:26 PM »
you can get the water out of iso by using epson salts in a pan on the stove which is inCREDIBLeY fucking dangerous and easy as hell to catch the iso on fire

Heat isn't required for this at all, and it works with lots of metallic salts like table salt & lye. I'm pretty sure it only works for isopropyl and not other alcohols.

I think there might be a residual effect on the alcohol tho, I'm not %100 sure, might depend on the salt used. I believe mixing like say lye and methanol creates (sodium) methoxide, so I'm not sure why mixing lye and iso wouldn't also create by-products, but wtf do I know..
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2015, 08:38:28 PM »
deep in this site there is a study on tolerance in the Tolerance board.

got it from there. heavy reading but all things tolly are an important thing to know .
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Re: Morphine Freebase from MSContin
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2015, 01:27:08 AM »
you can get the water out of iso by using epson salts in a pan on the stove which is inCREDIBLeY fucking dangerous and easy as hell to catch the iso on fire

Heat isn't required for this at all, and it works with lots of metallic salts like table salt & lye. I'm pretty sure it only works for isopropyl and not other alcohols.

I think there might be a residual effect on the alcohol tho, I'm not %100 sure, might depend on the salt used. I believe mixing like say lye and methanol creates (sodium) methoxide, so I'm not sure why mixing lye and iso wouldn't also create by-products, but wtf do I know..


You can salt out ethanol as well. I read of some students salting Everclear (commercial available 95% by volume grain alcohol) just for kicks. After a certain point of removing the water it becomes useless due to the water from the atmosphere going right back in shortly thereafter.
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