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Re: Just a question
« Reply #44 from previous page: November 06, 2015, 05:42:52 PM »
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Re: Just a question
« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2015, 06:14:45 PM »
Wow so much raw pain in this thread.  I admire all of you for your honesty.

I agree with what skramamme said about how a suicidal person's brain is broken and they are not capable of thinking clearly, or foreseeing the pain and trauma of others who may be dependent on them.  This is not a great example but sometimes I think about it like how you can have these great lofty plans and reasons to quit, but then when you're really dope sick all of those things can seem unreal, or less important, than your current agony.  It's not at all logical and that is the point--very few people who are suicidally depressed or for other mental illness reasons are capable of seeing their situation logically while in the depths of their pain (as opposed to those who have made a conscious, planned decision to die). 

I also think there's a difference between suicidal depression or transitory suicidal thinking, and people who have recurring mental illness and have made a conscious planned decision to die that makes sense to them when they are NOT in the throes of their illness.

I dont know you well enough to think which of those you fall under, skramamme; it sounds like there are some aspects of your plans that are thought out over the long term, and others that may be distorted...Like the idea that there is some threshold your daugher can pass after which she would be safe from the trauma of her mother's suicide, and would merely grieve for you like any other normal death, instead of being shattered by it.  That seems like something you tell yourself when you don't feel you have a choice in the matter. 

So what seems like a clear and matter of fact situation on the surface may be filled with the same uncertainty, fear, and regret on the inside that is so upsetting for people in the middle of an irrational suicidal cycle.

I think its likely that your daughter alreadys feels on some unconscious level what you're feeling and planning.  And I don't say that to make you feel guilty at all, but just to acknowledge that you can't be holding something this huge and not have it be present in that relationship in some way.  Its like how the kids always start acting out when the parents are getting a divorce, even if they haven't been told yet, and then when finally its explained to them they calm down because all the tension and anxiety in the house makes sense finally.  The problem with never acknowledging the elephant in the room is the kid starts to think she's the one with the trunk.  Maybe as she grows a different way of holding onto these feelings will become possible for both of you, and that release of pressure and loneliness could be a tremendous relief.

No matter what I have huge respect for your time and your commitment to your daughter, and I would never call you selfish.  Most parents have no idea what you've gone through and what it took to keep you from losing it already. 

I hope when she grows up maybe something will have shifted for you, but if it hasn't, I'm sure you will ultimately do the best you can for your daughter and also for yourself.  People who kill themselves are almost always doing the best they can, even if it doesn't seem like that from the outside.
You make my fucking brain hurt. Please summarize.

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Re: Just a question
« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2015, 10:40:44 PM »
Makita posted a well thought out and heartfelt reply, while you contribute nothing to the conversation @Riddick.

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Re: Just a question
« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2015, 12:42:50 PM »
Makita posted a well thought out and heartfelt reply, while you contribute nothing to the conversation @Riddick.
And what did you contribute? Lmao...the self-righteous people in this bitch....

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Re: Just a question
« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2015, 12:45:30 PM »
Makita posted a well thought out and heartfelt reply, while you contribute nothing to the conversation @Riddick.
I do like your name though...

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Re: Just a question
« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2015, 01:16:42 PM »
You make my fucking brain hurt. Please summarize.

Maybe if you used it more often you wouldn't have such problems.  How's that for a fucking summary?
something something drug war, social justice blah blah

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Re: Just a question
« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2015, 01:18:49 PM »
You make my fucking brain hurt. Please summarize.

Maybe if you used it more often you wouldn't have such problems.  How's that for a fucking summary?
Hahahaha...That made no sense but it was good for a laugh. Thanks man.

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Re: Just a question
« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2015, 02:27:30 PM »
You:
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Re: Just a question
« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2015, 10:08:42 PM »
^^^ omg, THAT'S SO RIGHT.
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Re: Just a question
« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2015, 10:14:19 PM »
Ya know what?
Fuck that noise
Your mother obviously never
Told you
If you can't say
Something nice
Don't say anything at all

Ugh...
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Re: Just a question
« Reply #54 on: November 09, 2015, 10:39:13 PM »
if Riddick upsets one more person then he will lose his voice for a spell.

he has been told, one time too many. but i do not dislike him, to be honest - he just needs a lot of work.

feel free to report any posts deemed 'nasty' or 'inflammatory' via the Report Post to Moderator facility
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Re: Just a question
« Reply #55 on: November 10, 2015, 02:02:39 AM »
Ya know what?
Fuck that noise
Your mother obviously never
Told you
If you can't say
Something nice
Don't say anything at all

Ugh...


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Come to think of it, she was rather prescient.

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Re: Just a question
« Reply #56 on: November 10, 2015, 06:20:07 AM »
@morphy
Cool logic but what if you apply that to drugs.
I KNOW red dick (must have callous on his hands)
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But I think waaaaay deep inside
There might be a decent person
He has a drug problem so that must mean some emotional scars.
He just needs a hug

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