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What Is The Main Emotion When People Know We Consume Drugs ?
« on: September 15, 2015, 01:11:06 AM »
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Re: What Is The Main Emotion When People Know We Consume Drugs ?
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2015, 02:08:24 AM »
Usually one of the two D's.....Disappointment or Disgust!
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Re: What Is The Main Emotion When People Know We Consume Drugs ?
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2015, 02:50:14 AM »
Frustration. Why am I not high yet!?
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Re: What Is The Main Emotion When People Know We Consume Drugs ?
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2015, 03:09:54 AM »
Boredom
It's like jfc here we
Go agian
And why can't I find that vein agian
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Re: What Is The Main Emotion When People Know We Consume Drugs ?
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2015, 04:24:57 AM »
Depends on what their relationship with us is.
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Re: What Is The Main Emotion When People Know We Consume Drugs ?
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2015, 04:31:06 AM »
Depends on what their relationship with us is.

This. Completely.
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Re: What Is The Main Emotion When People Know We Consume Drugs ?
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2015, 08:10:56 AM »
The one person
I ever worried about knowing
That I'm a junkie
Was my Mom
She knows
Just about everything
She just ignores the fact that I shoot dope

But she lets it slide
Cuz I don't let
My addiction
As an excuse
To act like an asshat
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Re: What Is The Main Emotion When People Know We Consume Drugs ?
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2015, 09:23:19 AM »
I beg to differ, they are scared of needles, dying, being thieved from etc.
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Re: What Is The Main Emotion When People Know We Consume Drugs ?
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2015, 10:02:19 AM »
It definitely depends on the person, as well as the drug. All drugs have at least somewhat of a stigma, but mention IV heroin and watch the room clear...

I've found that mentioning my problems to friends usually leads to concern and sympathy. Anyone else, though, I get the impression that they're just disgusted.

Fucking judgemental assholes....
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Re: What Is The Main Emotion When People Know We Consume Drugs ?
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2015, 01:48:39 PM »
Fear (of you dying, stealing, acting out, etc.)

Disgust, revulsion, horror

Concern, worry, anxiety

Frustration

Disappointment

Embarrassment

Believing the addict must be stupid

Believing the addict is a criminal

Believing the addict is wrong



Take your pick.  I think each applies depending on the person, and on the situation. 

I can see someone starting off being concerned, then being supportive when the addict tries to get sober, then being frustrated when the addict relapses, then eventually being disgusted when the addict fails to maintain sobriety. 

A lot of these feelings have to do with sobriety.  It's just the automatic, "normal" solution.  If you do drugs, you're expected to quit and get sober.

Not only does the WoD need to end, but people need to quit thinking of drugs as being automatically bad.  People can and do function while using drugs.  There is such a thing as maintenance.  People can be responsible while using. 

I think more needs to be done on that front, to change the perception of drug users and drugs themselves. 
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Re: What Is The Main Emotion When People Know We Consume Drugs ?
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2015, 03:18:16 AM »
Disbelief. Disgust, when they find out it's IV. Piqued curiosity... excitement... arousal.  It's a continuum, depends entirely on the person, the time in their life, their state of mind, etc. My mom used to shoot up herself but when it comes to me it's a whole different ball of wax.
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Re: What Is The Main Emotion When People Know We Consume Drugs ?
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2015, 06:17:13 PM »
I think you nailed every conceivable scenario. well done.
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Re: What Is The Main Emotion When People Know We Consume Drugs ?
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2015, 12:14:19 AM »
Fear (of you dying, stealing, acting out, etc.)

Disgust, revulsion, horror

Concern, worry, anxiety

Frustration

Disappointment

Embarrassment

Believing the addict must be stupid

Believing the addict is a criminal

Believing the addict is wrong



Take your pick.  I think each applies depending on the person, and on the situation. 

I can see someone starting off being concerned, then being supportive when the addict tries to get sober, then being frustrated when the addict relapses, then eventually being disgusted when the addict fails to maintain sobriety. 

A lot of these feelings have to do with sobriety.  It's just the automatic, "normal" solution.  If you do drugs, you're expected to quit and get sober.

Not only does the WoD need to end, but people need to quit thinking of drugs as being automatically bad.  People can and do function while using drugs.  There is such a thing as maintenance.  People can be responsible while using. 

I think more needs to be done on that front, to change the perception of drug users and drugs themselves.

Word.  It's like Philip Seymour Hoffman, all the talk after he died was about his secret relapse that no one knew about and how he'd been sober for 20 years, and like it was somewhat of a foregone conclusion that he would kill himself once those factors were taken into consideration.  Or at least that his life would inevitably fall apart in some way. 

I want to know why the story isn't "wow, he was shooting dope throughout his life AND he was incredibly driven and successful!  Depression (which I'm sure no small amount of stigma, both external and internalized, had a factor in) killed him, not drug use.  Outside of his depression he was an extraordinary actor and a great example of a FUNCTIONAL, or even champion/successful, heroin user."  I dont see any stories about him getting arrested or DUIs or getting caught high on the set, etc.  Wasn't he even making movies until like a week or something before he died? 

Functional, more than functional (its not like he just kept his bills paid and worked a day job--he really accomplished something).  Why is "functional" the best we can do? And many don't even believe we can do that.

When a society creates a whole story around a group of people, you're going to get a lot of people living up (of down) to that assumption.  Talk about self fulfilling prophecy.   What most people don't know or understand is that the story came first.

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Re: What Is The Main Emotion When People Know We Consume Drugs ?
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2015, 01:12:13 AM »
Fear (of you dying, stealing, acting out, etc.)

Disgust, revulsion, horror

Concern, worry, anxiety

Frustration

Disappointment

Embarrassment

Believing the addict must be stupid

Believing the addict is a criminal

Believing the addict is wrong



Take your pick.  I think each applies depending on the person, and on the situation. 

I can see someone starting off being concerned, then being supportive when the addict tries to get sober, then being frustrated when the addict relapses, then eventually being disgusted when the addict fails to maintain sobriety. 

A lot of these feelings have to do with sobriety.  It's just the automatic, "normal" solution.  If you do drugs, you're expected to quit and get sober.

Not only does the WoD need to end, but people need to quit thinking of drugs as being automatically bad.  People can and do function while using drugs.  There is such a thing as maintenance.  People can be responsible while using. 

I think more needs to be done on that front, to change the perception of drug users and drugs themselves.

Word.  It's like Philip Seymour Hoffman, all the talk after he died was about his secret relapse that no one knew about and how he'd been sober for 20 years, and like it was somewhat of a foregone conclusion that he would kill himself once those factors were taken into consideration.  Or at least that his life would inevitably fall apart in some way. 

I want to know why the story isn't "wow, he was shooting dope throughout his life AND he was incredibly driven and successful!  Depression (which I'm sure no small amount of stigma, both external and internalized, had a factor in) killed him, not drug use.  Outside of his depression he was an extraordinary actor and a great example of a FUNCTIONAL, or even champion/successful, heroin user."  I dont see any stories about him getting arrested or DUIs or getting caught high on the set, etc.  Wasn't he even making movies until like a week or something before he died? 

Functional, more than functional (its not like he just kept his bills paid and worked a day job--he really accomplished something).  Why is "functional" the best we can do? And many don't even believe we can do that.

When a society creates a whole story around a group of people, you're going to get a lot of people living up (of down) to that assumption.  Talk about self fulfilling prophecy.   What most people don't know or understand is that the story came first.

Makita different strokes for different folks, but, I agree with what you said.  However, I'm scared of this line of thinking because I feel like this is exactly the head trip I'm on before my life hits the ground and goes poom and shatters everywhere like glass shit.  In my mind, telling myself I can keep it together while shooting dope is the false sense of confidence and control I've come to associate with my use.  Before I go on a run, I always have this feeling of "I can handle this time" and the results vary greatly.  Madness is trying the same thing expecting different results.  Some people do handle really well though, not me but some people; like Philip Seymour Hoffman.  That being said, everything I do in my life is for eventual anticipation of being able to set myself up to do two things it seems....One of which involves junk.  As much as I hate to say it.  Or maybe Makita just sent me into overdrive mode because I'm telling you,
that discourse above is the ultimate delusion of the creator fiend. 
The fiend who is always trying to create more and more and more and get further and higher and further and then create more and more and more and more....That's the point.  TO just not exist, to do everything you can to the best of your abilities as much as possible as much as extra-humanly possible.  And it fucks me so hard in the end....But the summation of creator is their work not their person. so, should I go back to Philadelphia?  Decisions, decisions decisions.  I love dem boys, the dope boys in Kenzo are so good at what they do If I don't cop I feel guilty like they aren't eating cause I'm not coping or some shit.  I'm joking but hallways serious....Just don't go there at night

I remember my friend saying "Man fucking bullshit dude had like 70 bundles on him or some shit he definitely didn't 'just relapse'".  Why is this narrative of the poor lost soul who throws away everything to shoot dope included in the narrative, while, it could have been that the secret to his acting was the junk?  I'm sure as hell a great actor while high.   
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Re: What Is The Main Emotion When People Know We Consume Drugs ?
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2015, 01:55:30 AM »
Makita is right

The story came first
If we stop telling the story
Will the earth stop spinning?

There was a line
I had as part of my sig
On opi
It was from a book I read in jail
Called "On the Origin of Satan"
It said something along the lines
Of...
A society doesn't simply create it's others, it selects a group, finds a behavior or characteristic of said people and deem that simple difference as a major malfunction. It draws a tiny flaw into a massive thing, makes it what IS different and removes those "others" from the society.

I hope the way I put it
Makes sense
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