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Re: Wisdom Teeth Removal
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2015, 05:59:49 AM »
this site was built with meth.

it gives me the motivation and desire to pursue such tasks ... no way would I have attempted to work on computer systems like this (that i don't know well) now that I am out of a work environment.

you are right - to me, it's a wonder drug that enables me to produce much quality output so without meth, we wouldn't be here chatting now.

It's not toxic it's just a very potent stimulant that i use weekly ... with NO physical dependency.

yep, I love my opiates too but they always end up with me being chained to the drug, the clinic and my doctor.

so crystal meth it is ... you don't like being stimulated ? why not ? that rush of the dopamine release, in the short term, is bliss !
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Re: Wisdom Teeth Removal
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2015, 06:20:19 AM »
No methamphetamine is a toxic deadly drug it helps with nothing, not a single thing

The makers of Desoxyn (Methamphetamine Hydrochloride) http://www.rxlist.com/desoxyn-drug.htm
Might have a thing to say about that.
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Re: Wisdom Teeth Removal
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2015, 06:43:06 AM »
No methamphetamine is a toxic deadly drug it helps with nothing, not a single thing

yes, your statement is a prejudiced one and reminds me of on old Methadone doc. that said the opiates were poison.

this is not an attack on you but your opinion isn't based on fact and is something that the media might say.

i understand what you mean because the drug is responsible for a lot of stupid, criminal behaviour but amphetamines DO NOT KILL like opiates do.
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Re: Wisdom Teeth Removal
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2015, 07:40:51 AM »
I had mine out in 2008. All 4 where severely impacted so I was put under general anesthesia with nitrous and fentanyl and maybe versed? Then I was given 20 Demerol I had my mom call back 3 days later and was called in 30 10mg lortab. I ran through them super quick but I had a pretty fun 6 days. I remember being so high that I was having friends over to smoke bongs and play pool while my head was swelled like I got hit by a baseball bat.
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Re: Wisdom Teeth Removal
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2015, 10:13:41 AM »
No methamphetamine is a toxic deadly drug it helps with nothing, not a single thing

The makers of Desoxyn (Methamphetamine Hydrochloride) http://www.rxlist.com/desoxyn-drug.htm
Might have a thing to say about that.



Yes I am biased lost several good people to the drugs
But I'm not getting into semantics nor could I give a thought to what a drug company says; do you also believe only one percent of opiate users become addicted too, that is what Purdue says about OxyContin

Anyways meth causes damages to a users endocrine and your nervous system also changes the brain chemistry
It's not hard to see this happen in users
Does it have the same physical dependence as opiates maybe not, but it's addictive and a dangerous substance
No one can refute that who has seen the effects first hand

I'm not judging anyone and the use, do what you want to do.
But to me scripted 5mg methamphetamine is to ICE as pharm grade H is to BTH; it's not the same

The route of admin and dose changes the effects it has, that is undeniable

Like I said no offense should be taken, it's IMO
AND only imo
No big deal
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Re: Wisdom Teeth Removal
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2015, 10:25:51 AM »
No methamphetamine is a toxic deadly drug it helps with nothing, not a single thing

The makers of Desoxyn (Methamphetamine Hydrochloride) http://www.rxlist.com/desoxyn-drug.htm
Might have a thing to say about that.


Yes I am biased lost several good people to the drugs
But I'm not getting into semantics nor could I give a thought to what a drug company says; do you also believe only one percent of opiate users become addicted too, that is what Purdue says about OxyContin

Anyways meth causes damages to a users endocrine and your nervous system also changes the brain chemistry
It's not hard to see this happen in users
Does it have the same physical dependence as opiates maybe not, but it's addictive and a dangerous substance
No one can refute that who has seen the effects first hand

I'm not judging anyone and the use, do what you want to do.
But to me scripted 5mg methamphetamine is to ICE as pharm grade H is to BTH; it's not the same

The route of admin and dose changes the effects it has, that is undeniable

Like I said no offense should be taken, it's IMO
AND only imo
No big deal


I, frankly, don't like stims. Don't use em, really. Have and wasn't impressed. But your argument is flawed. If we're saying small medical doses are ok but large ones are bad, I wonder what would happen if you took a couple grams of Prozac.

It happens to be some peoples drug of choice. I don't judge it and hope they don't judge my own.
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Re: Wisdom Teeth Removal
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2015, 08:25:48 AM »
A little update - tomorrow is the big day. Insurance only covers two of my teeth so that's all I'm having taken out. 

Will update on what pills I receive. 

Here's a question though, how strict is the don't eat for 8 hours prior to surgery rule? I have a physically dependency to kratom and would like to take a few capsules to keep me feeling well before I get the anesthesia.  Will this be okay or is it a big no no?

Thanks!
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Re: Wisdom Teeth Removal
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2015, 08:46:35 AM »
Unless your going under general anesthesia (which you could be, people do, but you would know if you were going to be) the idea is don't throw up on your dentist.

If you can accomplish that still with your morning bagel, or your Kratom, you'll survive.
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Re: Wisdom Teeth Removal
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2015, 08:51:29 AM »
A little update - tomorrow is the big day. Insurance only covers two of my teeth so that's all I'm having taken out. 

Will update on what pills I receive. 

Here's a question though, how strict is the don't eat for 8 hours prior to surgery rule? I have a physically dependency to kratom and would like to take a few capsules to keep me feeling well before I get the anesthesia.  Will this be okay or is it a big no no?

Thanks!

It depends on what type of anesthesia you're having--if its conscious sedation (you're awake, but getting gas & maybe a bit of versed), you can usually eat up to 4 hours prior.  If its full sedation where you're knocked out, the very closest I've ever seen is 6 hours prior to the procedure.

The reasons for this are the risk of aspiration with anesthesia. Even if one has had numerous procedures in the past w/no problems, nausea and vomiting is a really common side effect.   I don't know how much fluid you need with the capsules--if its just enough to swallow them; say a few ounces, you should be ok, BUT in the interests of Harm Reduction, I strongly advise you to not take it in combination with everything else you'll have in your system the day of the surgery.

There's been so little research on the ingredients and the risk of problems from poly-drug combo/interactions in this case appears fairly high. Good luck & I hope it all goes smoothly for you :)
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Re: Wisdom Teeth Removal
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2015, 09:29:18 AM »
I will be under full anesthesia.  1-2 grams of kratom would be enough to keep me well for the time that I am hooked up to an IV, which absolutely TERRIFIES me. 

Usually my kratom dose from the night before can hold me until 8:00am or so. I'll have to see.  I have to be at the office at 8:45 for check in.  Really its gonna be seeing how I feel tomorrow morning and if I am feeling sick and restless odds are I will take 1 or 2 grams to help calm down a bit..I'm sure this wouldn't have much effect but that is why I am asking you guys.   Thanks for the answers.  We will have to see what I feel like tomorrow morning. :-/  once I get that fentanyl through the IV it will be no problem haha :-)
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Re: Wisdom Teeth Removal
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2015, 09:45:41 AM »
A little update: the homie just came in and said he could get some 7.5 Percs. Would it be better to take these to feel well than use kratom the morning of the surgery?
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Re: Wisdom Teeth Removal
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2015, 09:53:51 AM »
A little update: the homie just came in and said he could get some 7.5 Percs. Would it be better to take these to feel well than use kratom the morning of the surgery?

Personally, Not even the same ballpark. No question.
But then again, i have no experience with kratom whatsoever
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Re: Wisdom Teeth Removal
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2015, 09:58:38 AM »
A little update: the homie just came in and said he could get some 7.5 Percs. Would it be better to take these to feel well than use kratom the morning of the surgery?

Personally, Not even the same ballpark. No question.
But then again, i have no experience with kratom whatsoever

I'm not using to get high tomorrow I just need something to make me feel okay while they're plugging me into the IV mostly and while I sit in the office waiting to go in for surgery.   Just to be clear. I think such a small amount of drug would be better too but am worried about the oxycodones ability to hinder the effectiveness of the anesthesia?
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Re: Wisdom Teeth Removal
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2015, 10:03:12 AM »
A little update: the homie just came in and said he could get some 7.5 Percs. Would it be better to take these to feel well than use kratom the morning of the surgery?

Personally, Not even the same ballpark. No question.
But then again, i have no experience with kratom whatsoever

I'm not using to get high tomorrow I just need something to make me feel okay while they're plugging me into the IV mostly and while I sit in the office waiting to go in for surgery.   Just to be clear. I think such a small amount of drug would be better too but am worried about the oxycodones ability to hinder the effectiveness of the anesthesia?

I wont lie, i submitted that reply prior to reading the entire thread.

Having no experience with Kratom though, i still stick with choosing the percs.
Though i have even less experience with anesthesia, So hopefully someone else can provide you with good solid information.

sorry  :-[
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Re: Wisdom Teeth Removal
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2015, 10:06:33 AM »
If I had to guess, they'll probably give you fent and versed.  A little oxycodone isn't going to severely interact with those.  Not at doses to just keep you comfortable.  I know you're not talking about getting high.  And even if it did affect the anesthesia, it would increase it's effects, not decrease them.  They're all CNS depressants. 

I've only done Kratom a few times (leaf and extract), but I noticed they caused me to have a nauseated stomach.  Fent and versed could also cause you to be nauseated.  I'd play it safe and stick with the oxy.  I'm saying this b/c I'm assuming opiates don't upset your stomach anymore. 

Hell, for me personally, opiates ease my stomach now.  I'm more likely to have an upset stomach without them.  As soon as I have opiates in my system, it calms down.
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Re: Wisdom Teeth Removal
« Reply #29 from previous page: September 18, 2015, 04:18:06 AM »
Well, a little update for you guys

I made it through the surgery!  Feel like total horseshit, but I made it.

Ended up getting all four teeth pulled. We read the EOB? Wrong, turns out insurance completely covered all four teeth (thanks Obama!)

I took 1.5grams of kratom this morning when I woke up and did just fine with the anesthesia. No puking during the procedure and no nausea upon waking.  Felt fine while getting the IV, all was well.

They gave me 30 5/325 lortabs.  Not so bad I guess... Was hoping for percs since I was getting all four removed but no such luck.

All is well though. Still can't feel my face from the novacaine and its been 5 hours. Great.
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