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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #44 from previous page: September 02, 2015, 09:01:06 AM »
Yes, I'd like this debate to die.  I don't especially like debating in the first place.  It's a form of polite bitching IMO.  I also don't like having to defend my views.  It is what it is.

I don't know if you were speaking in a general sense, or if you meant me, when you said people have to act in a way that engenders kindness.  But I've always felt like I have behaved in a way that is kind.  Any "snarkieness" on Opiophile was either meant as a joke, or in instances where I was defending myself.  I'd like to think most people don't view me as an asshole.  I assure you that's not how I intend to be.  If some do think of me that way, I'm not sure there's anything I could even do to change their opinion.

As for Fear's info.  The only thing I did was to talk about his affair.  I didn't even want to list names.  He's the one who started naming names.  I originally referred to the other two as male member and female member.  I also don't think I did anything "bad" because it was already well known.  I was even told he made a thread shortly after my banning about his relationship with his "friend," as he put it.  I'm sure most people could read that for what it was.  I know a few did.  I'm also not the one who listed his first name.  Dizzle called him by his first name.  I don't consider my actions as "outing him."  Sorry you disagree.
Expressing your views while considering the views of another without getting butt hurt is debating. Polite bitching is something else. You must be very passionate about the stance you take. Which is a good thing. But proper debates can grow both sides in terms of understanding and acceptance.
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #45 on: September 02, 2015, 11:29:24 AM »
I'm not trying to be a dick, dont really care about this issue, but I thought this place was billed as a democracy. The winning option wasn't the on that one was implemented. Just saying.
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #46 on: September 02, 2015, 11:34:42 AM »
we have limited options as the reputation software is basic.

we have modified it but i am not an experienced php programmer so i can't do anything else as far as this matter is concerned.

yeah, a democracy.
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #47 on: September 02, 2015, 11:39:01 AM »
I'm not trying to be a dick, dont really care about this issue, but I thought this place was billed as a democracy. The winning option wasn't the on that one was implemented. Just saying.

I think you misunderstood the first option.  It means the way it is now, as in how Chipper changed it, with just positive only.

I originally thought it meant the way you're thinking.  With no changes at all, positive and unmodified negative rep.  That's why I said I voted wrong and wanted to change my vote.  That's not what it meant though.  It meant positive only.

I think the problem was with the word "support."  You could either say it means no support (as in work) is needed for the negative rep (the original system).  Or you could say it means no negative rep will be supported (as in allowed). 
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #48 on: September 02, 2015, 11:47:32 AM »
the poll indicates a preference to run with positive rep. (applaud) only.

makes my job easy since i disabled the smite option with a single line of php code removed.

i saved a backup of the original php file should we revisit this someday.

the SMS Support staff gave me a hand.

should the membership need a certain cool new feature then i have people to consult.
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #49 on: September 02, 2015, 11:52:51 AM »
So there was never an option to keep negative rep?
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #50 on: September 02, 2015, 11:57:15 AM »
all negative rep. at the time i turned if off via software patch, is still in play and has been deducted from your positive rep. and applied to the total number, the one currently displayed.

nobody can negative rep you now.
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #51 on: September 02, 2015, 11:59:24 AM »
So there was never an option to keep negative rep?

The second option: a modified negative rep system.  There wasn't an option to keep it as it was originally. 

The second option also had a mistake.  It should have been "if you give negative rep, you get some positive rep deducted, to discourage giving negative rep."  Giving negative rep while at the same time having your negative rep deducted doesn't really make sense IMO.
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #52 on: September 02, 2015, 12:05:53 PM »
the poll indicates a preference to run with positive rep. (applaud) only.

makes my job easy since i removed the smite option with a single line line of php code removed.

i saved a backup of the original php file should we revisit this someday.


I don't know. If someone posts something dickish once in a whie and gets dinged with negative karma it might help them to be more thoughtful about what they post. If over time those negative points buld up, then that member's posts will be taken with a grain of salt.

Of course that assumes those handing out the negative Karma both have positive Karma to spend andare using it correctly, not becasue they disagree with a post or dislike the poster but because they feel the poster is out of line in some way.

It it is UP votes ONLY it's ls not really an honest system. Everyone will collect some UP votes over time and our "scores" won't usually mean much. I'd like to see something that reflects the credibility and respect that member has in the [community]. 

I like a weighted system that would take into account lenght of membership, positive and negative Karma, their own use of the points system and maybe more. That being said, I have no idea how to implement it. I have a couple ideas but can't do the math or the programming.
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #53 on: September 02, 2015, 02:17:27 PM »
I think the whole poll was a bit of a clusterfuck in terms of wording and options. Oh well, chalk it up to growing pains.
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #54 on: September 02, 2015, 02:23:10 PM »
I think the whole poll was a bit of a clusterfuck in terms of wording and options. Oh well, chalk it up to growing pains.

yep, it was the most poorly worded poll i ever created. apologies.

sorry guys.
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #55 on: September 02, 2015, 02:29:57 PM »
I think the whole poll was a bit of a clusterfuck in terms of wording and options. Oh well, chalk it up to growing pains.

I don't really care, but the wording for the options in that poll were confusing as hell, and I've complete the 6th Grade!

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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #56 on: September 03, 2015, 08:18:28 AM »
i think i like the option of if you give negative rep, you lose some of your rep. so if you give negatie rep to someone, you should then be replying to that post with your stance on the situation, and hopefully getting positive rep from people agreeing with you. in reality, i dunno that that would actually happen.

i did like opio's give rep able to leave a msg about why you gave it.
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #57 on: September 03, 2015, 09:13:37 AM »
Rep is pretty much worthless if admins are adding and subtracting on a whim and a feeling.  Might as well just get rid of it entirely at this point.
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #58 on: September 03, 2015, 09:17:13 AM »
Rep is pretty much worthless if admins are adding and subtracting on a whim and a feeling.  Might as well just get rid of it entirely at this point.

That's no longer happening.  I consider this new, "positive only" system a complete restart.  Rep 2.0. 
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #59 on: September 05, 2015, 08:29:10 AM »
no mods or admins are messing with rep.

Nark is right - we continue with the system as it is now.

we are all equals when it comes to the rep. system and our earlier neg. rep has been carried forward.

have faith.
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