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Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« on: August 31, 2015, 10:41:37 PM »
Until i move to a vBulletin-like Reputation System, i wanted to explore the one supplied.

it's called Karma - you add points by applaud and deduct with "smite".

you have 3 options.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2015, 10:45:59 PM by Chipper »
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2015, 12:51:30 AM »
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2015, 01:08:02 AM »
Why isn't there an option to leave it the way it is?

The way I see it, narkotikon didn't like the negative rep he was getting, so he claimed people were "abusing the system" when he was the one actually abusing it by deleting his neg rep. I understand he apologized and it's not a big deal to me.

If there are no actual repercussions from negative rep, other than seeing a number under your avi, I don't see the problem with the current system..

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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2015, 01:09:55 AM »
Why isn't there an option to leave it the way it is?
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that would be the first voting option, for you then.

that's what we i have now - sorry to not communicate that effectively enough.
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2015, 01:13:29 AM »
Why isn't there an option to leave it the way it is?
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that would be the first voting option, for you then.

that's what we i have now - sorry to not communicate that effectively enough.

Ah ok. Thx

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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2015, 01:17:09 AM »
i'm hoping that everyone has an opinion on this on not  :-\
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2015, 02:18:58 AM »
How is giving negative rep and then getting it fair? That kind of defeats the point of being able to give negative rep...no?

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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2015, 02:33:14 AM »
How is giving negative rep and then getting it fair? That kind of defeats the point of being able to give negative rep...no?

that is the intention; take your pick. negative rep., left to run naturally, always crashes and upsets people sooner or later ...

we have seen it re. the complaints i got from a few. this is a throttle, of sorts.
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2015, 02:37:14 AM »
I voted to just shut it down until a better system is implementation.

Rep wars serve no one. And hurt the board.

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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2015, 04:18:23 AM »
Didn't really see a problem with how it was. I think people are smart enough to take those numbers with a grain of salt.

Why can't people actually read what is written by said person instead of relying on a number below their username?

 

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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2015, 05:29:33 AM »
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2015, 06:22:00 AM »
Why isn't there an option to leave it the way it is?

The way I see it, narkotikon didn't like the negative rep he was getting, so he claimed people were "abusing the system" when he was the one actually abusing it by deleting his neg rep. I understand he apologized and it's not a big deal to me.

Is there anyone else besides nark that cares?  In all honesty having him as an admin is the only thing I don't like here.  When I first saw that he was I chose not to sign up or use the site.  It was only a week later that I decided to give it a chance.

I have made my peace with him as a user, and I don't want to continue our feud.  The whole negative rep situation seems to be a result of his impulsivity.  A better solution would have been to start a discussion instead of accusing folks of abusing it.

It isn't really a big deal, but it seems to go against the principles of this place.

I will say that I gave him negative rep after he was removing it.  The reason being that I was curious how it worked.  Could I rep several posts one after another?  It turns out no.  It locks on use for an hour.

To be clear I am not calling for anyone's head or anything.  I am just talking about the way that I see the situation.  Does anyone think people are abusing negative rep besides nark?

I don't really look at rep for the most part to be honest.  I know my value, and a little plus minus number has no bearing on it.

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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2015, 06:26:22 AM »
a handful of people do care about rep. but i just want to keep people happy only after i started getting complaints.

if you care little then skip this else vote please ... :-\

looks like leaving it alone is gaining in weight.
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2015, 06:58:45 AM »
I think we have a pretty level-headed group on here for the time being, but anytime you get a bunch of self-confessed drug addicts/abusers/ or even just "users" together in one place, some dysfunctional and socially maladaptive behavior is not far off.

With that in mind, I think there needs to be some disincentive to just willy nilly give out negative karma, such as deducting a point from your own (+) points, or maybe even just like 0.25 or 0.5 points would be better.

But most important is that we have some means of being able to identify who's repping us or negative "repping" us, like there was on the 'phile. That was a good way of building friendships too, when I saw that certain people had repped me, it made me feel really nice, and they could leave a comment too.

I don't know if simple machines forum software is sophisticated enough to allow for modifications like the ones I'm suggesting, but if it can be done, that would be ideal in my humble opinion.

But really, at the end of the day, I AM MORE THAN MY KARMA POINTS!

TL/DR - we need to be able to ID who is repping us and have them be able to leave comments too, and negative rep should be accompanied by at least a partial deduction from one's own positive rep for the giver. I think 0.25 points would be right. That way, at least some reins could be put on any potential for assholery.
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Re: Poll: (3 opt's) re. Negative Karma / Negative Reputation
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2015, 07:17:09 AM »
the software can do anything if someone writes the code.

I reckon leaving it alone now. it works.
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