Session: 13 November 2026, 9:58 PM to 14 November 2026, 12:39 AM (Sydney). Follows origin_of_life_sequence_checkpoint_2026-11-13.md and origin_of_life_sequence_checkpoint_2026-11-13_2.md.
Cycle:
| Position | Status |
|---|---|
| RNA and DNA coexisted | Accepted as a legitimate position with experimental support |
| The ligases formed later | Agreed |
| The ligases are "replies" from proteins | Partly: proteins hold the dictionary but cannot write back to RNA or DNA |
| Ligases repurposed after DNA | Not supported: they predate DNA's takeover |
| mRNA or the helper protein is alive | Not supported |
| The ribosome is alive / FUCA = ribosome | "Oldest and most central machine" is defensible. "Alive" fails the self-reproduction test |
| Something coordinates the stepping | Not supported: shape and fit do it |
| Heat does not move the ribosome; a lipid in thermogenic flux might | Not agreed. Claude: heat plus the GTP ratchet. Heat alone cannot give direction |
| Early peptides were the primitive immune system | Protection first. Immunity once copiers and parasites existed |
| Fever heat drives the machinery | Not supported: small boost only |
| Two genetic engines separate immune cells from normal cells | Not supported: all cells have both |
| The merger was mutual | Favoured view |
| The merger was lipid-driven fusion | Not shown. The lipid replacement puzzle is real |
| Mitochondrion as "new furnace" | Agreed |
| Gene exchange answers an "inbreeding" problem | Matches Muller's ratchet, applied to sex |
| Cell-in-cell as "subsume instead of consume" | Fits the chloroplast merger. Doubtful for the mitochondrial one |
| Host-virus symbiosis is original | Supported |
| Virus turns toxic out of host | Supported (SIV to HIV) |
| Out-of-host caused by host extinction | Weak |
| Toxicity expressed as corrupt proteins | Not supported. One overlap: a prion-like antiviral alarm protein |